Tue May 23, 2006 4:26 pm

DannyW wrote:I've had a different experience with the amount of restriction per foot. 3#/foot sounds way high; I've read 2#/foot many other places and suspect it is even less than that.


I was at work when I posted this but I confimred that Dave Miller's "Homebrewing Guide" says 3#/ft for 3/16" ID hose. That Northern Brewer FAQ said 2.2# - 3#?? I don't know why there would be a descrepancy..?

In any event you can just switch out the hose and you'll be better off at higher presuures, but if you make any low carbonated ales you'll of course be in the opposite situation.. Depends on what you like to drink.

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Wed May 24, 2006 9:19 am

So if I have a 4-foot hose, I should be able to just set it to 12# and leave it there, even when dispensing, correct? Is this just for APAs?
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:00 am

Theoretically yes. however If DannyW is right though and my info is not you may want to go a little longer. I tweak my regulator a lot and dial in the pressure so I cannot be sure what I am actually getting, but a little longer (5ft) will be fine.

As for the style, etc., that is up to you. You can dial this in any way you like depending on 2 factors - Pressure and Temperature. A given pressure (say 12PSI) at a given temperature (say 40f) will yield a given amount of disolved CO2 in your beer (2.47 volumes of CO2 in this example).

Now, change ONE of those 2 variables and you change the amount of carbonation. So if you leave the pressure at 12PSI (because you want a constant pressure and hose length), but change the temp to 50f for a nice English Bitter, you will have 2.01 volumes of CO2, which is better for bitter.
On the other hand, if you crank the temp down to 37f you will have 2.62 volumes of CO2 which will give you almost enough for a fizzier beer (a Wit or Weizen maybe.) If you want to be able to be very flexible later on you would want to be able to change the hose length to match your pressure changes.

The link below has a chart that shows this. I printed this out and taped it to the wall above my keggerator. The chart also has very basic guidelines for how much CO2 for a given style, but there is better info in books and other sites (I think that Northen Brewer page you linked has this.)

http://www.ebrew.com/primarynews/ct_carbonation_chart.htm

Hope this helps,

Rob
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:28 am

I was also doing the purge, pour, pressurize routine. But the "long hose" technique sounds good. I gotta replace some of my pour hoses anyway, so I am going to make a couple of longer hoses and see how that works out. Thanks for the great tips.
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Wed May 24, 2006 2:14 pm

GooberMcNutly wrote:I was also doing the purge, pour, pressurize routine. But the "long hose" technique sounds good. I gotta replace some of my pour hoses anyway, so I am going to make a couple of longer hoses and see how that works out. Thanks for the great tips.


Damn, you better not tell Justin about that "Long hose technique" he'll be bustin your door down!
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Thu May 25, 2006 11:56 am

Im carbonating at 12-13 PSI with about 8 foot of line 3/16. The beers poor smoorth with a nice big head. Never need to adjust the pressure.

Take a look at this sight to calculate what you need.

http://ceisites.com/balance.html
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