Whirlpooling hasn't worked for me yet. Tips?

[Ice Hensley]

I've brewed 3 AG batches so far and each time I've tried to whirlpool, but with no noticeable results (looking for a cone of some kind I guess?). Here's what I do:

using a 30 qt. Bayou Classic turkey fryer aluminum pot
-after cooling to around 72 I get the wort spinning as fast as I possibly can
-I leave it for about 20 minutes
-rack into my fermenter using an auto siphon

For my last two I have ended up just dumping all of the trub into my fermenter because I didn't want to lose the gallon or so that is left behind, then racking to secondary for dry-hopping after 5 days.

Questions:
-Does whirlpooling not seem to work for others or am I doing it wrong?
-Is it ok to dump the trub into my fermenter, especially when I am racking off in 5 days or so?
-Should I just adjust my recipes so that I get more liquid and leave the gallon with the trub in the kettle?

Thanks in advance!

[linuxelf]

How are you cooling the wort? The faster you cool it, the better chance you'll have of having stuff settle out.

[Lufah]

If you are going to get a whirlpool to work you are going to have some loss to the kettle. I make about an extra gallon of wort and leave it behind in the kettle.

Travis

[Kaiser]

I wrote a fairly comprehensive whirl-pool how-to once. But it is on a different brewing board. If you guys think I shouldn't point to other message boards, let me know and I will remove the link:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread. ... =whirlpool

[Lufah]

Info is good. Post away.

Travis

[one_eye]

Thanks for the step by step Kai.

[Ice Hensley]

Thanks for the tips, guys!

How are you cooling the wort? The faster you cool it, the better chance you'll have of having stuff settle out.

I cool with an immersion chiller, takes about 15 minutes to get down to pitching temp.

If you are going to get a whirlpool to work you are going to have some loss to the kettle. I make about an extra gallon of wort and leave it behind in the kettle.

right on. I guess I can do that. I just noticed that after my whirlpool attempts, the trub was still flat with no real cone shape like I was expecting...

Thanks again!

[Ice Hensley]

Excellent step-by-step, Kaiser! The pictures are especially helpful. Guess I'll just need to try again until I get it right.